Which leads me to believe the tiny minority, that rattlesnakes do in fact give off a cucumber smell. If your current e-mail address is not the one registered with vftt, you should include the registered one in the body of your password request. Not a bad idea to visit both, but be wary of rattlesnakes if leaving the trail during the hot months of summer. The state Department of Environmental Conservation notes that timber rattlers usually are three to four and a half feet long, so the one Seth encountered was larger than average—unless his eyes deceived him. TONGUE MOUNTAIN RANGE - Note there are many rattlesnakes in this area. Super fun, tougher hike with spectacular views of Lake George and the surrounding Adirondacks done on an early September, cool, mostly sunny day. No rattlesnakes. We started late, so proceeded clockwise to tackle the 3 peaks first. Very well marked with new markers. Incredibly slow going on downhills. I underestimated this one. Dogs are also able to use this trail but must be kept on leash. Toooo steep toooo much. Mix of icy and muddy/wet today. According to the Rocky Mountain Poison and Drug Center, approximately 20 to 30 bites are reported in Colorado each year. This trailhead is next to a small quarry. It was a lot of ups and downs today. Perfect hiking weather. We loved it! This is a popular and easily reached lookout over northern Lake George. They are the largest venomous snake in New York State, so you should be extra cautious while traversing this area. It looks PERFECT up there for them ! link above. I ran out of light at the end and hiked with a headlamp. http://www.dec.state.ny.us/website/d...ec/tirafs.html, http://www.esf.edu/PUBPROG/brochure/snakes/snakes.htm, http://community.webshots.com/photo/...80703265UVANce, http://community.webshots.com/photo/...80703265yCNsJC, http://community.webshots.com/photo/...80703265VWAjOK, http://community.webshots.com/user/anorthosite420. No snakes no ice minimal mud. Shelving Rock Mountain and Shelving Rock Falls Trail, North Tongue Mountain Range, Five Mile Mountain and Lake George Trail, Uncas Waterfall via Terzian Trail [PRIVATE PROPERTY], Shelving Rock Falls and Shelving Rock Mountain Trail, Tongue Mountain Range and Northwest Bay Trail. Mike and Cheryl here. Dead Last > Did Not Finish > Did Not Start, We camped on Turtle #11. I wore trail runners; my wife ankle high boots. We hiked this trail on 9/6/20 in a clockwise direction, and the trail was in great condition. Views From The Top recommends that all hikers read and familiarize themselves with the hikeSafe web site before venturing into the back country. From here if you have the energy you can head down to the lake for a dip. No sightings of snakes, just an awesome trail and views. There are three approaches to Tongue Mountain: They are also entirely absent in Glens Falls (where I live). We were planning on out and back but did the loop and cut off a few miles with a bushwhack out (like a prior reviewer) because we really didn’t have the return trip in us. I needed to hike the Tongue Mountain Range, a peninsula that juts into Lake George in the eastern Adirondack Park, for a guidebook I was writing. Take exit 24 off of I-87 and head east on the Bolton Valley-Riverbank Road toward Bolton Landing. 12.5 miles and a bit over 8 hours with decent breaks. From there you will follow a nice trail around the shore of the lake to Montcalm Point where you'll have great views of the Narrrows. It was a sunny, hot day after a cool evening, so I was watching out and actually hoping to see a rattlesnake. I have no problem hiking 15 miles when the trail provides the rewards. Explore around this area for great views out over the lake. These are large snakes some approaching 5 feet (1.5 m) in length. And overall a great trail! Great trail with beautiful views. Insects and mud were present, but modest. Tip: There is a specific species of rattlesnack that only lives in the Tongue Range so be aware of this, not necessarily scared of this as they certainly are more afraid of you than you are of them. But they are common in several areas: Tongue Mountain; Black Mountain Point (I understand they … Females give birth to 4 to 21 young in late summer; the young are marked similarly to adults, but colors are brighter. Great hike, bring lots of water and enjoy the walk. We offer quality and a variety of reptiles and amphibians throughout the United States. Elapsed time was 7.5 hours. Two stars because this trail is tooooo long. ... open the mouth, let the tongue dangle, salivate and get dirt in the mouth, roll onto its back and become motionless. A great hike on a gorgeous fall day. select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. Here you have the choice of continuing straight to head right up into the mountains or head along the bay towards Montcalm Point. There’s a little bit of everything on this trail- some mud, rocks, overgrowth, views, and runnable trail. The scales are weakly keeled, and there are 25-27 dorsal scale rows at midbody. Timber rattlers range as far south as Florida and as far west as Texas. I jogged for a couple of minutes every 10 min to get out of there in a reasonable time. You will park at the southern trailhead for the Tongue Range, Clay Meadows next to a quarry. Prairie Rattlesnakes prey on a variety of … Five Mile Mountain (7 miles RT difficult). Most of the mountain is a challenging hike. Beautiful views. But these snakes typically calm down quickly if held. I said "you think so ?" The other photos show the views down to the lake. 76 likes. Measuring from 3 to 4.5 feet or more in length, the timber rattlesnake is the largest venomous snake in New York. Measured 13.1 miles (without going to the point), and 3800 ft. of elevation gain. When you get to Route 9 turn left to head north. Each complete with deadly fangs, these snakes feed on mammals and toads, with larger snakes even dine on animals as large as a prairie dog. Be aware of rattlesnakes in this area. The trail tends to be dry, so it important to bring plenty of water. The trail is primarily used for hiking, snowshoeing, and backpacking and is best used from April until October. Mountain Kingsnake. This review is for Tongue Mountain Range and Northwest Bay Trail. Popular hiking trails traverse the rugged uplands of the Tongue Mountain Range. Also, this trail was not crowded at all, but I did hike it on a Friday not Saturday or Sunday, also the parking lot is not that big, so I would try and get there early when you go. Tip: There is a specific species of rattlesnack that only lives in the Tongue Range so be aware of this, not necessarily scared of this as they certainly are more afraid of you than you are of them. Before we left, Brown grabbed a … Rattlesnakes have a forked tongue that they flick up and down. DEC said that rattlesnakes were wiped out at many New York locations, killed for the bounties once paid for dead rattlesnakes, or because they were considered a pest, or they were taken for the exotic pet trade. No fee to park here. Clay Meadows is 4.5 miles from the turn and the trailhead is on the east side of the road next to a rock quarry filled with water. Be sure to read the Terms of Service before using VFTT.org. If you have forgotten your password, please click here to send an e-mail requesting your password be reset. Rattlesnakes can be found in many regions around Colorado with the western rattlesnake (Crotalus viridis) being most common. The trail features many spectacular views as well as two lean to shelters for backpackers. The tongue of the Rattlesnake is forked and it picks up microscopic airborne particles from the air. You are the top of the first mountain in this loop hike, First Peak. From here you will head down to Deer Leap Junction and head back to the car. The maximum reported total length is 189.2 cm (74.5 in) (Klauber, 1956). I hiked the Tongue Mtn trail on Sunday. The tongue is mostly black. Clay Meadow trail at top of Tongue Mountain Hwy (Rt.9N). *Rattlesnakes are found in this area! System contains over 18 miles of marked foot trails. MOS Reptiles. To start viewing messages, check out the FAQ by clicking the Trail was not crowded and had plentiful time to look at the views. 13.6 miles, so be prepared. They said "watch out on Turtle !". It should also be noted that the Tongue Mountain range is home to timber rattlers, which are poisonous snakes that can pose a serious threat to hikers. On slipping back into the mouth, the tongue touches a spot on the roof of the mouth known as the Jacobson’s organ or the vomeronasal organ. You must supply one verifiable piece of information - e-mail address or birthday - in addition to the username - for security reasons. This does not. Start hiking down the trail which will cross the outlet of Northwest Bay shortly and then come to a trail junction. You are now at the top of French Point Mountain with more views down to the lake and across to the mountains on the remote east side. Our team serves as reptile wholesale suppliers for a large number of pet stores, zoos, and even private collectors. Call NYS DEC for hiking trail maps. We packed lunch, snacks and two liters of water each; bug nets, poles and a hat. A great loop hike that brings you along the shore of Lake George then over 3 small peaks on the Tongue Mountain Range. Deer Leap (3.4 miles RT, easy). If you park where it says to, next to the pond type area, from there you walk to your right to the forest preserve path. Great views- but with the deep, loose leaves and loose gravel,I thought the steep descents were really dangerous and more than once I wished I’d brought a hiking partner. Please include your screen name. Two color patterns are commonly found: a light phase, which has black or dark brown crossbands on a lighter background color of yellow, brown or gray, and a dark phase, which has dark … My GPS registered 12.8 miles (All Trails indicates 14.8), but we did not do the point. Great day! Nonetheless, these snakes are not aggressive, and striking is only used in defense as a last resort. This organ picks up the particles collected by the tongue and sends messages to the snake's brain identifying the scent as food, enemy, mate or other object or substance. As long as you are prepared for the long miles, it will not disappoint. "The reason people like to go there is access to Lake Champlain," Capone said. Head along the lake towards Montcalm Point and you will return to here on the way out. Strictly Reptiles is an online reptile store that employs some of the best reptile breeders in the industry. Beautiful views of Lake George and an easy walk along the shore line. Want to be a registered member? Highlight is French Point Mt views up and down N and S of the lake. Tongue Range Notes: All six of the following peaks are a part of the Tongue Mountain range on the west shore of Lake George. Prairie Rattlesnakes den communally, but range up to 7 miles from the dens during the summer. Holt (1924) mentions a large specimen caught in Montgomery County, Alabama, which had a total length of 159 cm (62.5 in) and weighed 2.5 kg (5.5 lb). Hiked the trail on 9/6 and encountered one rattle snake on the trail. Everything I’ve read indicates that “ rocky outcrops and open grassy areas with … Our peak climbing was 30+ min miles and our pace on the “flats” was 20+ min miles. I am delighted to know about you and your long association with rattlesnakes on Tongue Mountain! Plus there are sections where the descents are just not fun. Arrive early during busy season since parking spots are limited. I would recommend going clockwise and doing the mountains first- it will make the second half of the hike more enjoyable. This snake is commonly 3- to 4 feet long and rather plump compared to other kingsnakes. The ascent up 1st peak took longer than expected and sometimes required extra caution. Tongue “Mountain” is actually a series of connected peaks running nine miles along the spine of a peninsula that juts southward into the lake, with Northwest Bay on the west side, and the island-dotted Narrows on the east. Populations at Shelving Rock on the east shore of Lake George and at French Mountain were among those wiped out. and 11 minutes. The rattlers were once hunted for bounties, which were outlawed in 1971. The “flats” aren’t flat, but they aren’t difficult either; more of an expectation looking at the elevation map. It’s a Smelly Tongue. This is a long loop but very gratifying. Brown has confirmed the reality of long, wild lifespans that hadn’t been recorded before. Numerous birds inhabit or visit the area including various waterfowl and Peregrine Falcons . Long day. The tongue picks microscopic airborne particles and gases from the air. In addition, mountains in the Tongue Range are a known habitat for Timber Rattlesnakes. Young snakes may have spots of white or yellow under their chin. Take exit 24 off of I-87 and head east on the Bolton Valley-Riverbank Road toward Bolton Landing. Some downslope areas are dangerous as hell. Challenging for an LG12 hike. It took us 6 hours and we recorded 10 miles. Rattlesnakes held in captivity live an average of 15 years. On the way out I met a family going up who asked if I had seen any. Tongue Mountain Range and Northwest Bay Trail is a 14.8 mile heavily trafficked loop trail located near Bolton Landing, New York that features a lake and is only recommended for very experienced adventurers. When the tongue slips back into its mouth, it touches a sensitive spot on the roof of the mouth called the vomeronasal organ, or Jacobson's organ. There is not enough visual rewards for the length of this trail. The hike out is along the water, however we were getting tired and just wanted it to be done. Rattlesnakes are almost never found in the High Peaks region (I have never heard of a report). The 2258 foot mountain is found after hiking 3.5 miles on the Tongue Mountain Range Trail. So relax and snap a few photos. The views were superb, and they got better from each peak (heading south). The record length is 74 ½ inches. Two people all day excluding parking lot. I followed the mileage I’d gone on my phone to know I was at the end, and I had gone over, what looked like 3 peaks. Fantastic views of the narrows, multiple ecosystems...it’s long, second half gets a little old. Then you'll gradually ascend the southern end of the Tongue Range over 3 nice peaks with great views over the lake below. Stay on trail, wear high boots, watch where you put your hands! Then you’ll walk further and see the different trails you can access. Split Rock Mountain on the “Adirondack Coast” of Lake Champlain is known as a place where the Timber Rattlesnake (Crotalus Horridus) enjoys an almost perfect habitat. We are two avid hikers in our 50’s. In the Adirondacks, the snakes also can be found on Tongue Mountain and other spots around Lake George. There were some sketchy sections. As they stick their tongues out, what they are really doing is taking in a deep breath. These snakes are quite active during the day, which increases the chance of sightings. Views from all 3 were spectacular and the descent out wasn't bad, just long. Didn’t see any snakes. The largest is the Prairie Rattlesnake, capable of growing to more than 4 1/2 feet long. Access to trails on Rt 9N about 10 miles north of Bolton Landing. This pretty snake is variously called the Arizona Mountain kingsnake or Sonoran Mountain kingsnake, It may be 2.5 to 4 feet long. "It's kind of a critical time for mountain biking." That being said, the peaks are GORGEOUS! I think they were extra pretty because it was blue skies, but I thought they were so beautiful! Remember that in NH, Fish and Game can and will charge you for some or all expense(s) incurred if you need to be rescued. They wind around several miles of the lakefront and there are plenty of places for a swim. Lower Tongue and NW Bay loop. They enjoy the shelter in the wooded areas but also enjoy basking in the sun on exposed rocks. The summit of Five Mile Mountain is 1.7 miles from the trail that marks the beginning of the Tongue Mountain Loop (described in the overview section) and thus offers a … Be aware of timber rattlesnakes, as this area is known to have rattlers. Look for nesting pairs of Peregrine Falcons & waterfowl. I'm not sure of the reason, but it certainly seems like the area around Lake George and the Southern end of Lake Champlain is rattlesnake country. Slippery leaves don't boost confidence. At Split Rock Mountain, they're being kept off trails down to the shoreline. Behavior of Rattlers: In the northern areas of their range, an… 2. The trail markers are very easy to follow, however they are your only markers. There is a wonderful anecdote about Appy taking a group of women to his camp on Turtle Bay, ans when it came time to get back in the boat, he informed them that there was a rattlesnake … Heed the rattlesnake warnings—nearly stepped on one that had just killed a chipmunk and wasn’t going to share its lunch. They can track the odors of their prey along the ground with their tongues thanks to a smelling organ that’s in the roof of their mouth. (Most of the leaves were down) There were a few scrambles, nicely placed stepping stones and some blow downs blocking the trail. The 10.5 mile Tongue Mountain Range Trail is a popular hiking destination in the Lake George Wild Forest of the southeastern Adirondacks. This is a rugged route passing through forested terrain … We did not see any rattle snakes, but we did see a small gardener snake on that flat 5 mile stretch at the end of the hike. Harder than expected (from some Catskills 35ers and ADK 46ers). I used my Garmin FR 945 watch. 1) A myth exists that a cucumber smell comes from rattlesnakes 2) The Tongue Mountain Range is known for harboring rattlesnakes 3) The only place I have ever smelled random cucumber is the Tongue Mountain Range. The other two varieties, the Massasauga and the Midget Faded Rattlesnake, will grow to around 30 inches. We hiked the loop clockwise. A lot of up and down and some steep sections. The length of the trail combined with the steep terrain makes it a challenging all day hike. Beautiful views though, just incredible! In the photos the summit is shown in the upper left hand side of the photo. Took a total of 6 hrs. We had a little conversation. Call or text 754-264-1591 for quickest response and to request a list as I have many more reptiles available. Rattlesnakes use their tongue, which is forked, a lot like a bloodhound uses its nose. Large specimens can reportedly weigh as much as 4.5 kg (9.9 lb). I chose to go along the lake first which was a pleasant walk and made good time. To reach Five Mile Mountain you'll first climb the 1966 foot Brown Mountain and pass the Five Mile Mountain Lean To. Despite their size, cryptic coloration allows them to be easily concealed. Unless you simply want to do a long strenuous hike, do some of the other great trails in the area. See the FAQ for instructions. If this is your first visit, be sure to After you reach the first peak, there’s no more signs letting you know what summit you’re at. "We KNOW so, a Ranger removed a nice 3 footer at our request from our site (Turtle 24) yesterday !". My GPS read 14.8 which is different than other reviewers- not sure why the discrepancy but it really is an arduous hike. We hiked clockwise to fifth peak last fall and counterclockwise to first peak with a bushwhack down to the NWbay trail. 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